Concerned citizens continue to try to post the offensive "drunken Judy" videos, but within a day, these are taken down by providers routinely. When you try to log on you end up with seeing something like this:
May 25, 2014
Latest views on Ramtha litigations by Joe Szimhart
For over a year now, the Ramtha organization and its leader JZ Knight have been embroiled in litigation with ex-members of the Ramtha School of Enlightenment over live-streamed videos that ex-members and others have posted on the Internet. The videos show JZ Knight as herself and in Ramtha character making crude and blasphemous remarks and appearing intoxicated with her devotee-students laughing and snickering while appearing intoxicated as well. Knight successfully sued ex-RSE members Virginia Coverdale and David McCarthy for posting the damaging, RSE-generated videos and has demanded that they retrieve and hand over or promise to destroy every last copy.
Coverdale disputes the judge's ruling, claiming that the evidence shows she "did not breach the contract." McCarthy signed a settlement but believes that he could have won the case had his health and finances held up. Both ex-members share a conviction that posting the videos in any form should be allowed under "fair use" clauses under freedom of speech. They have a point and a good one. These cases are not over because they hinge on a far larger discussion about morals, ethics, undue influence, and downright deceit when a psychic can claim to be sole owner of a god or a ghost and get away with it.
Knight is currently suing a non-member, Glen Morgan of Evergreen Freedom Foundation, for posting the videos also, the difference being that Morgan never signed a CoP or Condition of Participation to not distribute Ramtha School “sacred” and secret teachings in any form. Morgan was never a student. As students, Coverdale and McCarthy signed the generic form claiming they had no idea what it covered at the time, but it held in court anyway. Morgan, on the other hand, is using the videos to expose disputed facts as a journalist under the fair use clause, the same way critics of Ramtha (like me) have over the decades without being sued. In fact, in McCarthy’s settlement, the Ramtha people signed an agreement that McCarthy could use any lawful means to express his criticism of the so-called “cult.” Part of the Morgan dispute is whether Morgan gained access to the videos legally and whether that matters
There, I said it—cult—that four letter word that Ramtha students hate because they say it is pejorative and does not represent their “experience.” Perhaps the term cult has no bearing on RSE one way or another—cult is a neutral term that has come to signify crazy or dangerous devotional behaviors. I generally throw the useless “c” word out when discussing groups like Ramtha. Calling a group a cult tells me nothing. It is like saying someone is in a car. So what? I want to know what kind of car, who is driving, is it stolen, are the occupants following regulations, do they have a license, are they intoxicated, who is packed in the back seat and are they in any danger because of the way the driver is handling the vehicle, etc.
The question is not about cult: Does JZ Knight and RSE represent a history of deceptive, self-deceptive, manipulative, crazy, and harmful behavior? The ex-members who have direct experience in the cult/car argue yes to all of the above. A prime example is JZ Knight’s ex-husband Jeffrey Knight who saw that RSE was harmful and called JZ a greedy fraud after he awakened from the Ramtha spell before he died in 1994.
Ramtha students have this vague vision of their “school” as the proper reconstruction of what Jesus (Yeshua, Joshua, Issa) the Christ actually did and taught 2000 years ago. The following is a recent quote from a current RSE member that represents what I have heard from RSE members for the past few decades:
“I personally don't want to have a repetition of what happened to Jesus' teachings where people who hadn't met him wrote the bible for their own ulterior motives and changed them throughout history to enslave and control people.
In the last 2000 years history took its horrific course because of the falsifying and alteration of Jesus' true life as an initiate, husband and father, and of his true teachings, and his true message, and nobody could really - afterwards - show the truth about him, his life, his teachings and message and/or set the record straight in these 2000 years.
Only in the last decades scrolls were found that were written by eye witnesses. Those written accounts show a very different story than what was passed down in history! But they are either ignored or rejected by Church and believers. And we know why!” (http://www.rse-newsletter.com/2014/05/rse-students-address-the-allegations-of-critics-in-2nd-newspaper-ad/)
The grandiosity implied by knowing that “history took its horrific course” because of someone falsifying some hidden thing Jesus did is pure New Age fantasy and a sad testimony to ignorance about history.
Of course, neither do we in this 21st century want anyone to misconstrue what Ramtha taught and did since JZ “Bennett” produced him after 1977. The student’s claims are ludicrous, as JZ Knight has been rewriting Ramtha’s history all along as evidenced by her 1987 book State of Mind, the sudden appearance of new teachings around 1988 centered on blindfolding and hyperventilation, and some lame, apparent rip off of Buddhist teaching when JZ as Ramtha introduced an ominous teaching about “the Void.” Now, we have this dishonest historic spin on what drunken Judy/Ramtha really meant in those live-streamed videos: Judy was merely being satirical! How dim does she think we are? Apparently not as dimwitted as the local Democrats that bought her rationalizations after Judy offered around $70,000 to the Party cause.
Already, in the mid-1980s, Ramtha was saying through Knight’s lips, “I am Christ for you in this age.” Knight and her minions have a particular hate for established Christianity, and more so despise the Roman Catholic tradition. The RSE pretends to be a “mystery school” or something akin to the legendary pre-Christian and Gnostic Christian initiatory cults that RSE claims represent the “lost” Christianity that the early Church leaders hijacked and changed.
The RSE writer I quoted indicated “scrolls”, most likely referencing the Nag Hammadi and Dead Sea finds in the last century, and obviously not the seminal research and commentaries represented by scholars like Bart Erhman or Carl Raschke. Those scrolls, if you know anything about the scholarship surrounding them, do expand on what we know about primitive Christianity, but they do nothing to undermine the essential four or five strong traditions that became the Christian canon by the 4rth Century. The limited mindset of JZ Knight infects her devotees to a default position represented succinctly by the RSE member’s letter I am using here. That default position includes a naïve persecution complex:
Another aspect is in my opinion, that this wonderful school is a true beacon of hope for this world because of Ramtha's teachings and because of the disciplines he has given us.
And those who have that experience have a right to relate that to their fellow human beings in our times without being burned at the stake.
Nobody, including McCarthy, Coverdale, or me, is disputing this RSE member’s “rights” to be crazy on the streets with devotion to a channeled spirit, just as nobody disputes the rights of the Flat Earth Society or the Unarius Academy of Science to exist and meet freely as they still do to this day. RSE and Judy Knight have been babbling openly and secretly about Ramtha for over 35 years now with no government resistance, unless Judy did something like break the law by selling Arabian horses at inflated prices to her devotees using Ramtha’s endorsement.
What is at stake here is not rights but the duty to inform when one citizen notes that another is being fooled and manipulated and has evidence to prove it. If my mother or a friend were being recruited by the Unarians or the Flat Earthers, I would be duty bound, based on what I know and can teach, to have a serious if friendly discussion with them. Do I even have to say that this is not burning at the stake?
The RSE persecution complex reminds me of a line from Bob Dylan’s 115th Dream:
The man says, “Get out of here
I’ll tear you limb from limb”
I said, “You know they refused Jesus, too”
He said, “You’re not Him
Get out of here before I break your bones
I ain’t your pop”
I decided to have him arrested
And I went looking for a cop
Read more: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/bob-dylans-115th-dream#ixzz32fiDZvm2
That’s correct, JZ is not Him, and not by any stretch of the imagination is Ramtha, who is no Buddha or Zoroaster either. Ramtha’s handler (to me Ramtha is like a pet on a leash) is an aging psychic medium, one of many thousands that adopt the White Brotherhood milieu handed down by fading neo-Rosicrucian movements and sectarian Theosophists, one that has firmly testified that Ramtha is one of the “Council of Thirteen” of the White Brotherhood of Ascended Masters early in her career.
And you, the RSE students surmise that wounded and financially insecure ex-members and a few pastors are out to “break your bones,” so you go “looking for a cop” to do what Judy’s all-powerful and all-knowing yet thin-skinned mind puppet Ramtha can’t seem to control, namely JZ Knight’s offensive behavior.
I would say to the RSE members, no evidence of a secret, initiatory tradition was destroyed by early Christians, unless your “wisdom” is based on factually inaccurate Dan Brown novels like The Da Vinci Code. The Christian initiations were there in the open from the beginning as evidenced by the cults of the Eucharist and baptism and receiving the Holy Spirit and studying under the elders, as evidenced by the desert fathers that faced dark nights of the soul in their inner search for communion with God, and as evidenced by early monastic traditions among men and women in the church. The Gnostic movements hailed as “real Christianity” by so many New Agers, failed more so due to their radically dualistic myths and unstable governance. This is not to say that Gnostic sects were not persecuted by Romans and later by the established Roman church.
I mentioned Professor Carl Raschke above. He was featured on the 1988 20/20 television expose of Ramtha as an expert. Raschke stated that Judy Knight could be either a victim of some “deep force” within that she could not entirely control, or it could all be an act. RSE members would do well to read Raschke’s interesting and well-researched GloboChrist: The Great Commission Takes a Postmodern Turn (2008). In the least, a read of GloboChrist could bring them out of the RSE frog pond and into the academic ballpark on how to discuss Christianity when you actually know what you are talking about. And to get a clearer perspective on how primitive Christianity actually evolved, I suggest Professor Bart Ehrman’s lectures and books on Lost Christianities: Christian Scriptures and the Battles over Authentication (2002) as a start. You will learn why the creed of emergent Christianity became so paradoxical due to the challenges of adoptionists and Docetists, Gnostics and Marcion. Don’t go mentioning “scrolls” when you have no clear idea what they say or how they fit into history.
Judy Knight seems to have a particular vendetta against Virginia Coverdale who allegedly “stole her man” while Coverdale was yet in the group. That vendetta might be mutual as Coverdale quite boldly posted the damaging videos and other information about Judy Knight after breaking with the RSE. Of Coverdale, Judy stated:
“She’s somebody who wants to be famous and is a very jealous and envious, controlling person that thought they could make some money off of me,” she claims. “People who say those things, we are taught by the Ram, are really speaking about themselves, it’s the Jung concept of the shadow.”
Beyond the obvious cheap shot using an ad hominem, Judy Knight’s rationalization could have come straight from Charles Manson. Take note and compare:
I have killed no one and I have ordered no one to be killed. I may have implied on several occasions to several different people that I may have been Jesus Christ, but I haven't decided yet what I am or who I am. I was given a name and a number and I was put in a cell, and I have lived in a cell with a name and a number. I don't know who I am.
I am whoever you make me, but what you want is a fiend; you want a sadistic fiend because that is what you are.
You only reflect on me what you are inside of yourselves, because I don't care anything about any of you and I don't care what you do.
The Court: Anything further?
No. We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair unless they approach me with it.
Prison's in your mind ... Can't you see I'm free? http://www.mansondirect.com/transa.html
Prison is just a state of mind? It is my experience, my perception and that is reality because I create my reality, says Manson. Sounds familiar if you grasp anything that Ramtha teaches through Knight's lips these past 38 years.
2/10/13 [since edited]
Ramtha School of Enlightenment sues ex-member and an Internet ex-member support group.
by Joe Szimhart
May 8, 2014 re release of "drunken JZ Knight tapes by Glen Morgan: http://www.myfreedomfoundation.com/blogs/liberty-live/jz-knight-tirade-videos-submitted-politicians-she-supports
Democrats reverse position on cult leader and accept her money (May1, 2014)
By Jeff Rhodes | The Olympia Report
Apparently J.Z. Knight has lost her taint — or at least her money has.
Two years after the Washington State Democratic Party was shamed into declining a $70,000 donation from the Yelm-based cult leader, the Thurston County Democratic Central Committee has accepted a pair of donations amounting to almost as much.
According to the Washington State Public Disclosure Commission’s website, Knight made a $50,000 contribution on Feb. 25 and donated another $15,000 on March 24.
The Thurston County Democratic Party did not respond to a phone message from the Olympia Report about the story, but in a follow-up story in the NW Daily Marker, Thurston County Democratic Party Chair Roger Erskine said the Central Committee is not considering refunding the contributions and characterized the statements made by Knight as “alleged.”
Erskine said the decision to accept Knight’s contributions was made by unanimous vote at a recent committee meeting and the decision was based on the board’s having “verified that Knight was a Democrat in good standing who supports all parts of the party platform.”
Up until 2012, Knight had been a reliable donor to Democratic causes in Washington state. But party leaders were mortified when the Olympia-based Freedom Foundation made public a series of videos on which Knight launched into profanity-laced tirade against Jews, Catholics, gays and Mexicans......."
March 29, 2013: Ex-RSE members win motion: The judge granted the motion to quash as to all the information except ip addresses and mac addresses for Enlightened Europa support site on FB. No personal information, identities, email, phone, etc are subject to disclosure. No unecessary intrusion allowed. Joe Sz.
2/10/13: (by Joe Sz)
Lately, since 2012 ex-members of the Ramtha 'cult' (RSE) headed by channeler JZ Knight have been sued and harrassed by the Ramtha organization over posting embarrassing video displaying JZ Knight as Ramtha intoxicated, cursing and making demeaning remarks about Mexicans, gays and Catholics. An article posted in the NW Daily Marker states:
Knight makes a chilling statement that she knows how to “drop the lodestone” on “government authorities.”
Some of Knight’s remarks in the videos also use graphic descriptions of homosexual acts to disparage and threaten Catholics; others smack of anti-Semitism.
Ex-Ramtha members have been complaining about Knight's 'outrageous,' drunken and abusive behavior when in character as Ramtha for decades, yet this is the first time internal videos show Knight to the public in all her intoxicated glory. As a result Democratic Party support and pritection waned seriously. Knight has successfully courted the Dems locally and nationally with donations for decades and even posted a photo of herself with her granddaughter shaking hands with President Obama. The two-faced Knight allows her alter personality Ramtha all the free reign to act and speak outrageously among devotees about members, ex-members, Catholics, gays, government and foreign cultures but she apparently cannot handle it when a mirror is held up to her surgically enhanced face. Ramtha is supposed to be an all powerful god that can "bring you down" at any moment yet resorts to petty Scientology-like legal tactics to harrass and intimidate simple ex-members trying to expose what they see as a harmful cult. Ramtha is supposed to "come with the wind" to remind members that "he" is with them (How stupid is that for a hypnotic suggestion?) but the spook is a total blowhard when it comes to a real demonstration.
I first encountered the Ramtha cult in 1984 when I lived in New Mexico where I attended a local Ramtha meeting at the elegant Santa Fe home of Ann "Athena" Pattengill [now deceased but then a friend of Shirley MacLaine's--MacLaine was into Ramtha back then as well]. Athena knew I was a critic of channeling and a 'cult' specialist, but we were friendly--my wife was her seamstress. Athena, also a psychic, generally channeled her personal entity after each Ramtha meeting. I maintained a quiet, respectful presence at the meeting. Athena's funeral announcement to us contained a quote from Ramtha whom she apparently believed in untill the bitter end as one of many "Masters." Athena died of leukemia that, I heard from a friend, she tried at first to treat with positive thought, affirmation, and alternative medicine. She finally turned to standard medical care without success. May God rest her spirit.
I was hired to exit counsel perhaps 25-30 people out of the Ramtha sect from 1986 through the late 1990s. Most of the interventions were successful, all non-coercively and legally done. One person I helped with recovery from Ramtha was Jeff Knight whom JZ (12 years his senior) courted and married around 1980, thus her last name. Jeff was in his early twenties then and admitted to me he was overwhelmed by the attention he received from both JZ and Ramtha--he had never encountered anything like that before. They met when JZ approached him to buy a horse he advertized. He first experienced JZ's Ramtha at actor Richard Chamberlain's house in Los Angeles where many celebrities would come to see the medium JZ Bennet perform. Jeff said that Ramtha told him that JZ was Jeff's "soul mate." I met Jeff in the early 1990s several times--he was suing JZ for monies he thought the sect owed him since their divorce around 1987. Jeff died of AIDs in 1994. I was his first witness in that lawsuit. The judge in his verdict allowed only for Jeff's legal expenses in running the suit. Jeff could not afford to appeal for the damages he sought.
Jeff Knight was very clear with me that by 1989 he finally came to see Ramtha as an act and a "fraud" used by JZ to fulfill deep needs for power and an extravagant lifestyle. He felt she had little to no concern for the actual welfare of her followers. The current ex-members active on the EMF and EE sites would all agree. Many were members of RSE for ten to twenty years. Most of them struggle with psychological and financial issues directly related to their cult experience.---Joe Szimhart
July 8, 2013
A judge has barred a former student of Ramtha’s School of Enlightenment from releasing to the public materials belonging to the school, including videos depicting the school leader, J.Z. Knight, making derogatory comments about Roman Catholics, Mexicans and others.
Attorneys for Ramtha’s School of Enlightenment, or RSE, had sought the restraining order after last year’s widespread release of videos on the Internet depicting RSE’s leader, J.Z. Knight, making derogatory comments about Roman Catholics, Mexicans and others.
A preliminary restraining order barred further release of the videos, and ordered existing ones removed from the Internet.
The temporary restraining order was made permanent after Thurston County Superior Court Judge Gary Tabor’s oral ruling June 28. Tabor said in his ruling that the contract former RSE student Virginia Coverdale signed upon entering does bar her from releasing proprietary materials given to her by RSE.
“As to there not being a breach of the contract, I find that the provisions of the contract are specifically, well they’re there for everybody to look at and they are sufficient to protect this type of disclosure from occurring,” Tabor said.
The original request for the permanent restraining order was made as part of a lawsuit by JZK Inc., Knight’s company, against Coverdale.
The lawsuit had stated Coverdale breached a contract she signed with the school when she posted videos of Knight “channeling” Ramtha, a 35,000-year-old warrior, in 2012.
In 1998, Knight founded a school in the Yelm area to teach others about her beliefs. The school has had tens of thousands of followers.
Coverdale said in an email to The Olympian on Friday that Tabor’s ruling came as a shock, and she believes it will be overturned on appeal.
“First and foremost it is indisputable that I did not breach the contract by the plain language,” Coverdale said in the email.
Members of Knight’s legal team could not be reached for comment Friday. A cursory search on the Internet for the videos depicting Knight making derogatory comments turned up empty.
A representative from the Freedom Foundation, a libertarian-leaning organization that reposted many of the videos depicting Knight, said Friday that by and large, the videos have been removed from YouTube at the request of Knight’s lawyers.
When the Freedom Foundation reposted the videos in the run-up to the November elections last year, a number of state Republicans called for Democratic candidates to give back campaign contributions they had received from Knight.
“She’s been trying to take them down everywhere,” Glen Morgan, property-rights director for the Freedom Foundation, said Friday. “I don’t blame her. If anybody was saying stuff like that, they wouldn’t want it out in the public.”
Morgan added that his organization could legally repost the videos if it wanted to; the organization is not bound by the contract entered into by former RSE students.
He added that the videos of Knight that the Freedom Foundation did originally repost are just “the tip of the iceberg.”
In Tabor’s oral ruling, he stated that the political controversy over the videos played no role in his decision.
“It is not an issue for this court to decide whether or not the contents of the video were outrageous, whether or not comments made in that video were inappropriate, whether or not the politics involved was something that should be argued in a public forum,” Tabor said.
“The issue before this court is whether or not there was a contract that was breached and any proposed defenses fail on a legal basis, and that’s been my determination today.”
Knight’s attorneys will ask that Coverdale pay their attorney fees in the case.
I will be updating this blog as the lawsuit against EE and now EMF proceeds.
www.enlightenmefree.com for more information
Blindfolded RSE members attempt to "see" without eyes in many RSE ritual exercises like "remote viewing."
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